This is becoming ridiculous!!!

Buy a tux, put em on your desk and watch him do  .... nothing! How long will we have to support this? Maybe it's time to put some negative ads or comments on other sites to make you understand that you sold us something that is completely broken and that you don't do shit about it except whining that it isn't your fault but the business partner you choose for the TTS that isn't delivering the right libs to make it work! Bad partner choice i would say, but it's YOUR duty to find a solution for this. We payed for it!

I feel a bit like a M$ customer, paying to find bugs in their crappy softs and hoping they will release some patches for it for free! Maybe your next product could be an open and closing window to get those customers buy your products.

Tired of waiting, feeling really cheated and helpless.

Cazze

Hi Cazze,

Maybe you explain it in another post on this forum, but could you tell me what does not work with your Tux and what OS do you use ?

Enguerran

Previously enguerran wrote:

Hi Cazze,

Maybe you explain it in another post on this forum, but could you tell me what does not work with your Tux and what OS do you use ?

Enguerran

Here you go:

http://www.tuxisalive.com/tux-droid-forum/copy_of_forumtopic1/144054561

I can understand his frustration.

The TuxDroid code base is not standards compliant.  Had it been, there would be no issues running it on 64 bit OS installations.  All x86_64 distributions run 32 bit software just fine, provided they are coded correctly, and to standards (standards that have been around for quite a long time).

All 64 bit Linux distributions have both 64 bit and their 32 bit counterpart libraries.  The TuxDroid software doesn't appear to understand this and tries to look in non-standard locations for things.

Python, is a standards based installation and extensions to it have their rules too.  These rules aren't being followed either.

You are closed sourcing things on an open sourced OS, which I believe if you use ANYTHING with a GNU license, you MUST reveal the source as well.  This means if you use any GCC libraries and such and are not open sourcing your code, then it is in violation of the GNU license.  I would hope you've done your legal homework as well.

The issues many have been having with your software are things that can be easily fixed by any competent programmer familiar with your code.  Having been a programmer for 20+ years in various environments and operating systems, I really do not understand why this is an issue that has gone on for so long without a solution.

With a closed system, as this is, it is not the "community's" responsibility to fix your problems.  Had everything been wide open with full disclosure from the start, these issues would never had happened (at least for so long), and I'm sure the software would have advanced considerably beyond what it is now by community supported software.  You chose the proprietary path, and it will come back to bite you in the butt the longer these problems last.

My TuxDroid sits doing nothing as well, except act as an epensive secondary (but cheap sound quality) sound card.  I happen to run the 64 bit Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Haron.  The only thing that runs is tuxd (and the firmware updater), but none of the other software works.

Like I said, I can understand Cazze's frustration.  Many people have asked for help, and no practical solutions have been produced.   That's really too bad.

Please....

Get your facts straight before posting.

It is perfectly possible to distribute closed source libraries and/or executables under linux. What exactly is possible depends on the actual license. (e.g. GPL, LGPL, etc; even GPLv2 and v3 differ substantially).
If you think otherwise, I suggest you try to obtain the source code for e.g. SAP or Novell Netware.

Wrt the python being 'according to the rules': I have no idea. I see some issues there, but I am not a python expert, so I have no idea on the cause.

As far as the speech libs concerns: yes I would also prefer to have them open source, but apparently it is not the way it is nowadays.
If you are unhappy with them, why not put another speech lib on your system.
You are running ubuntu, so you could install either espeak or festival.

Btw (and I am really drifting off-topic now):
I don't really understand why people are so eager to use 64 bit OSes. That might be nice if you have executables that need more than 4GB and/or if your system has more than 4GB of RAM. Otherwise I see no advantages, only possible disadvantages.

Just my 2 cents....

FM